BRICS is committed to trading in national currencies, and many countries have already switched to this practice.
- 53% of China’s trade is conducted in yuan, more than 90% of trade between Russia and China is in yuan or rubles.
- In 2023, 80 countries have decided to switch to trading in national currencies.
- Southeast Asian countries have unanimously decided to switch to trading in national currencies.
- This is part of a global movement towards a currency alternative, caused by the need to avoid dollar sanctions.
01:50 BRICS summit in Kazan
- The West and BRICS supporters assess the summit’s achievements differently.
- Western commentators downplay the results, BRICS supporters exaggerate.
02:30 Crisis of International Economic Institutions
- Legacy institutions of international economic governance do not meet the needs of most countries.
- BRICS and others criticize the IMF, World Bank, and WTO for failing to serve their interests.
- These institutions are in crisis, but the internal power structure of the BRICS is leaning toward alternatives.
04:01 Transition to a Multipolar World
- The world is moving from a disintegrating Western system to a multipolar world led by China.
- BRICS countries could follow China’s example by controlling corporate power.
05:49 BRICS Study
- Russian government publishes study on “Improving the International Monetary and Financial System.”
- Study criticizes dollar system, but many solutions remain problematic.
- BRICS governments are still far from recognizing the need for change.
07:37 BRICS Currency
- There will be no new BRICS currency, all talk about a BRICS currency is a fallacy.
- The BRICS countries already trade in their national currencies, and other countries are also striving to do so.
- The ability to choose a currency has become a matter of economic and national security.
10:01 Principles of a new monetary system
- The main principles of a new monetary system are security, independence, inclusiveness and sustainability.
- Countries are working on alternative platforms for messaging and interoperability of domestic payments.
- Russia proposed creating a supranational infrastructure for a common payment platform, but this proposal was not adopted.
17:02 Transition to multicurrency mercantilism
- Gradual transition to multicurrency mercantilism.
- De-dollarization of world trade is easier than the financial system.
- The importance of de-dollarization of capital markets.
- Increase in the volume of foreign exchange transactions.
- Dominance of dollar-denominated instruments.
- The importance of de-dollarization for security and stability.
20:43 Creating regional hubs for trade
- Creating hubs for trading oil, gas, gold and grain.
- The importance of stabilizing grain prices for developing countries.
- Russia as a key player in grain exports.
24:15 Liberalization of Capital Markets and Trade
- The Difficulties of Liberalizing Capital Markets.
- The Ease of Liberalizing Trade.
- Historical Legacy and Arguments Against the New Currency.
26:08 The Dominance of the Dollar and Its Limitations
- The Dollar as a Currency for International Banks.
- Fundamental Principles of the Dollar System.
- Contradictions in Providing Liquidity and the Attractiveness of the Dollar.
27:45 The Triffid Dilemma and the US Financial System
- The US abandoned the gold backing of the dollar, which led to the Triffid Dilemma.
- The Triffid Dilemma is resolved by depreciating the dollar, which causes a deficit in the US.
- Financial bubbles help relieve pressure on the dollar.
29:21 Capital Flight from Developing Countries
- The dollar system leads to capital flight from developing countries to developed countries.
- Most foreign investment goes from developing countries to developed countries.
- The problem is that about 10-13% of capital flows from developing countries to the first world.
30:17 Capital controls
- The only way to keep capital in a country is to impose capital controls.
- Selling natural resources and agricultural products in local currency can provide financial stability.
- The case of Nigeria shows how capital controls can help stabilize the economy.
33:08 Liberalization and foreign investment
- Liberalization to attract investment can be too high.
- Foreign investment is a small part of overall growth in gross domestic product capital controls.
- Capital controls can be an obstacle to development.
35:48 Problems with trade between countries
- The lack of trade between countries is related to their production structures.
- Creating conditions for expanding trade takes time.
- BRICS has chosen a reasonable development path, but there are many problems that need to be solved.
36:42 SDR and de-dollarization
- BRICS does not discuss the creation of a common currency, but calls for a stronger SDR.
- SDR is an international unit of account controlled by the IMF.
- SDR can be used in market transactions to resolve trade imbalances.
- 38:26 Problems and prospects for SDR
- SDR is subject to manipulation by large players.
- The inclusion of the yuan in the currency basket changed the SDR formula.
- The revision of the formula was postponed due to the pandemic, which caused criticism.
- 41:13 Currency basket review and the IMF
- The IMF announced a currency basket review without explanation.
- The IMF’s governance is outdated and the SDR is no longer fit for purpose.
- The IMF is based in Washington and is a mechanism for redistributing global wealth.
- 42:02 Using national currencies in international trade
- The question of creating a unit of account for clearing.
- Central banks are buying gold at a record pace.
- Gold is returning as a hegemonic asset.
- 43:00 Alternative barter currencies
- Central banks have accelerated gold purchases in 2023.
- Gold and other assets may become alternative currencies.
- Keynes proposed using a basket of 30 most traded commodities to determine the value of a currency.
- 44:47 Creating a BRICS working group
- BRICS countries may create a working group to determine commodities.
- Russia recommends using its centers for trading oil, gas, gold and grain.
- Uneven distribution of resources and their export from emerging markets.
- 46:28 Stability and inflation in China
- China has achieved stability with near-zero inflation since 1986.
- Keynes’s plan assumed stabilization of import prices for the UK.
- Combining the interests of exporters and importers for balance.
- 48:10 Risks of currency basket manipulation
- Central and commercial bankers can manipulate the currency basket.
- Return of the Glass-Steagall Act to limit manipulation.
- Liberalization of derivatives led to financial crises.
- 49:58 China’s financial system
- China avoids excessive financialization through state banks.
- China supports the real economy, not speculation in financial markets.
- The Chinese system is aimed at investing in the productive economy.
- 51:59 Problems with the dollar system
- The dollar system depends on regular inflation and financial bubbles.
- The document acknowledges frequent crises, trade and payment imbalances, high public debt and capital volatility.
- Capital flows from poor to rich countries, which serves the interests of developed countries.
- 53:41 Splitting up HSBC
- HSBC announced a split into HSBC West and HSBC East.
- A possible reason is debt in the Hong Kong real estate market.
- HSBC West is practically not growing, unlike HSBC East.
- 54:32 HSBC and de-dollarization
- HSBC is trying to unite the countries of the East and West.
- De-dollarization of BRICS savings is a difficult task.
- Russia proposes to create a BRICS digital investment asset.
- 55:25 Gold and other assets
- Central banks are buying up gold, which leads to an increase in its price.
- China imports oil and metals for strategic reserves.
- The idea of creating a grain exchange to eliminate imbalances.
- 57:10 China and reserves
- China accumulates grain and oil reserves for stability.
- The US emptied its strategic oil reserve by sending it to China.
- China rationally accumulates resources to maintain stability.
- 01:00:13 Monetary policy
- Russia produces everything it needs and does not need reserves.
- Each country is unique in its needs and resources.
- It is important to study and apply China’s methods for stability.
- 01:01:48 Financial repression
- Financial repression directs capital to productive investment.
- The West abandoned this approach since the 1970s, which led to a decrease in economic growth.
- Money has a different nature in different economies, which requires diversity in monetary policy.
- 01:04:26 Diversity in Monetary Policy
- Central banks must take into account the diversity of markets.
- China is experimenting and analyzing the results to improve policy.
- The UK is not paying enough attention to analysis and improvement.
- 01:06:23 Water Quality in the UK
- The quality of the Thames has deteriorated due to sewage.
- The UK must care about everyone, not just the winners.
- Capital controls are essential for a stable financial system.
- 01:07:43 Capital Redirection
- The report suggests redirecting capital from first world countries to emerging markets.
- Capital controls are not discussed, creating a difficult situation.
- The future of pdevelopment will be interesting to watch.
- 01:08:41 Uniqueness of economies
- Economies are unique, and one size does not fit all.
- China uses surplus to finance the Belt and Road Initiative.
- The People’s Bank of China is looking at alternatives to Treasuries and gold.
- 01:10:21 Bilateral deals
- Bilateral deals were announced at the BRICS summit last year.
- Examples include building a super container port in India and upgrading the power grid in South Africa.
- These deals help develop infrastructure and the economy.
- 01:12:19 Chinese reserves
- China has cut its reserves by $25 billion, but is not dumping them.
- The US is busy in the Eastern Mediterranean, making war with China less likely.
- China could cut the US off, which would impact the US economy but not China much.
- 01:14:34 Co-investment
- Co-investment is possible and Sharia-compliant.
- It is long-term stabilization and partnership in enterprises.
- The world is changing rapidly and there is hope for stability and prosperity.
- 01:15:23 Food Security
- Food security is important for national security.
- Examples: Burkina Faso imports tractors and fertilizer.
- Changes in the world are positive for long-term stability and prosperity.
- 01:16:22 Keynes’ Plan
- Keynes’ plan included development loans to balance trade.
- Most US debt is owned by US individuals and corporations.
- China was the largest foreign owner of US debt, but now it is Japan.
- 01:17:11 Conclusion
- Thanks to Kathleen for being on the show.
- Hope to discuss more topics in the future.
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